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Edith Alice TIDY  Edith Alice TIDY[1, 2]
Female 1905 - 1999

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  • Nickname  Edie & Clare 
    Christened  1905  Bray Parish Church Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Birth  31 Mar 1905  Braywick Grove, Bray, Maidenhead, Berkshire Find all individuals with events at this location  [4
    Gender  Female 
    Residence  Sep 1907  Braywick Grove Cottage, Bray, Maidenhead Find all individuals with events at this location  [5
    Residence  1911  Cobham Park, Cobham, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Residence  1916  2 Stokenchurch Street, Fulham Find all individuals with events at this location  [6
    Residence  1917  55 Chiddingstone Street, Fulham Find all individuals with events at this location  [7
    Occupation  Between 1921 and 1929  Fulham and Putney Find all individuals with events at this location  [8
    Florist 
    Residence  Between 1924 and 1929  42 Lower Richmond Road, Putney, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this location  [9, 10
    Occupation  Between 1929 and 1944  Beckenham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location 
    housewife 
    Residence  1930  Upper Richmond Road, Putney.Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Residence  Between 1931 and 1944  113 Stanhope Grove, Beckenham, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [11
    Occupation  Between 1944 and 1952  East Malling, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    shopkeeper and caterer 
    Occupation  Between 1952 and 1957  Horam Road, Heathfield, East Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Shopkeeper 
    Occupation  Between 1962 and 1969  Gibby's Cottage, Jevington, East Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    caterer 
    Residence  1970  Te Whare, Little London, Heathfield, East Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Residence  1973  Moonwood, Horam, East Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Residence  Between 1976 and 1990  Crowborough, E Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence  Abt 1990  Pinewoods Residential Home, Crowborough, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Cremated  1999  Pembury Crematorium .Ashes buried in Crowbough Church graveyard. Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    _UID  101EC17550FFFF448117EE80C362CA5F4A32 
    Died  5 Nov 1999  Crowborough Hospital, E Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location  [12
    Person ID  I1  British Roots
    Last Modified  12 Dec 2009 
     
    Father  Alfred TIDY,   b. Sep Q 1872, Ilford Essex Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 4 Apr 1930, 42 Lower Richmond Road, Putney, Middlesex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother  Alice FLETCHER,   b. 14 Oct 1873, Bow, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1952, Heathfield, Sussex Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  14 Oct 1903  Bray Parish Church Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID  F74  Group Sheet
     
    Family  William Edward TURNER,   b. 14 May 1902, 28 Ashington Rd, Fulham, London Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Feb 1981, Pembury Hospital, Kent Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married  7 Oct 1929  St Mary's Church, Putney Parish Church Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Children 
     1. Patricia Edith TURNER
    >2. Rosalie Corinna TURNER
    Family ID  F28  Group Sheet
     
  • Photos
    Braywick Grove-birthplace of Edith Alice Tidy
    Braywick Grove-birthplace of Edith Alice Tidy
    Alfred and Alice Tidy were in service with the Samuelson family who lived at Braywick Grove when Edith Tidy was born in 1905
    Hatchford Park,Cobham,the home of the Samuelsons and where Edith Tidy's parents were employed. Lady Samuelson was Edith's godmother and Edith lived here until she was about five.
    Hatchford Park,Cobham,the home of the Samuelsons and where Edith Tidy's parents were employed. Lady Samuelson was Edith's godmother and Edith lived here until she was about five.
    Cobham Park where Edith Tidy lived from about the age of five
    Cobham Park where Edith Tidy lived from about the age of five
    Edith with Gibby
    Edith with Gibby
    Edith Turner nee Tidy at Gibby's Cottage with Gibby the donkey
    Gibby's Cottage about 1963
    Gibby's Cottage about 1963
    Gibby's Cottage when the Turner's and their daughter Pat were marooned there by snow which drifted and at one time came near to the top of the groundfloor windows.
    Postcard of Gibby's Cottage in the early 1960s
    Postcard of Gibby's Cottage in the early 1960s
    St Michael's Church,Bray
    St Michael's Church,Bray
    Church where Edith Tidy was christened.
    Bofors Gun
    Bofors Gun
    One of the anti-aircraft guns sited near to Stanhope Grove
    The Stores East Malling,the village green and the King and Queen public house
    The Stores East Malling,the village green and the King and Queen public house
    The Stores is seen at the left
    Edie and Eddie Turner in the garden of Gibby's Cottage soon after they moved in.
    "Edie" and "Eddie" Turner in the garden of Gibby's Cottage soon after they moved in.
    Poster in buses,trams and trains in 1941
    Poster in buses,trams and trains in 1941
    Hatchford Park,Cobham,Surrey
    Hatchford Park,Cobham,Surrey
    Alfred Tidy and Alice Tidy nee Fletcher were employed as domestic servants at Hatchford Park at some time between 1907 and 1910.
    On holiday
    On holiday
    William Edward Turner,Edith Alice Turner nee Tidy,,Alice Tidy nee Fletcher and Pat Turner on holiday
    Christmas 1930 at Beckenham
    Christmas 1930 at Beckenham
    Amy Turner nee Bassett,William Edward Turner 1867-1938,May Turner and Edith Turner nee Tidy at 113 Stanhope Road,Beckenham.Christmas 1930 or 1931.
    The aftermath of a doodlebug
    The aftermath of a "doodlebug"
    Beckenham suffered badly from the German V1 flying bombs during the summer of 1944.Many people were killed and houses were reduced to rubble.
    A V1 Flying Bombs- a doodlebug in flight
    A V1 Flying Bombs- a "doodlebug" in flight
    The V2 rocket
    The V2 rocket
    The first V2 rocket fell on 8th September 1944 and the attacks went on until the 18th September when Londoners believed that they had stopped for good. Unfortunately that was not the case and on 3rd October attacks recommenced. The final V2 rocket was in March 1945 when Londoners were preparing themselves for the onslslaught of the expected V3s.
    The Daily Herald front page in November 1944
    The Daily Herald front page in November 1944
    On 10th November 1944 Churchill announced "We are under attack again" and the press were able to give details of the renewed attacks by V1 flying bombs
    Guarding the remains of a Doodlebug
    Guarding the remains of a Doodlebug
    A policeman guards the remains of one of the first doodlebugs to hit London. Beckenham was the home of the Turner family and suffered quite badly from Doodlebug attack.
    WW2 Cookery Book
    WW2 Cookery Book
    Housewives were encouraged to make meals from very little and to prepare substitutes for foods that were scarce. Edith used to make up a dessert from Cremola and call it "Rice Cream". She made mock bananas from parsnips and banana flavouring and "tinned" pears from fresh pears boiled in lemonade.
    Gas Mask Poster
    Gas Mask Poster
    These were to be seen everywhere the Turner family went in Beckenham and people carried their gas masks with them wherever they went.Rosalie was just old enough to escape the awful contraptions issued for babies under two but was given instead a peculiar affair with flippers at the nose. Both girls had smart "leather" cases for their masks and luminous false flower buttonholes to wear in the blackout.
    Auxiliary Fire Service engine leaving its station
    Auxiliary Fire Service engine leaving its station
    The AFS had a station at the top of Stanhope Grove and the sound of their clanging bells was heard repeatedly during the nights of the blitz
    Shelter Regulations
    Shelter Regulations
    Edith in the marketplace at Milton Keynes
    Edith in the marketplace at Milton Keynes
    Edith Turner nee Tidy in Milton Keynes when she was about 83
    Edith with baby
    Edith with baby
    Edith Turner nee Tidy with daughter Pat
    William Edward and Edith
    William Edward and Edith
    William Turner and Edith Turner nee Tidy on holiday in Bognor
    Edith and Rosalie with Gibby
    Edith and Rosalie with Gibby
    Edith Turner nee Tidy with daughter Rosalie and Gibby the donkey at at Gibby's Cottage.
    Edith with Pat,duck and chickens
    Edith with Pat,duck and chickens
    When householders were urged to grow their own food and keep small livestock William Edward Turnerbecame an enthusiastic smallholder with ducks,chickens and rabbits replacing the fancy pigeons and budgerigars he kept before the war. Unfortunately his wife Edith and his daughters treated them all as pets so that they were never knowingly eaten.
    Letter from Clementine Churchill (back)
    Letter from Clementine Churchill (back)
    At their Christmas Party in Beckenham in 1941 Edith dressed her daughters in grass skirts,stained their bodies brown and accompanied them on the piano while they danced to the tune of Oh By Jingo. After the performance a collection was taken for the "Aid to Russia" fund. This is the letter of thanks received by Clementine Churchill.
    Letter from Clementine Churchill (front)
    Letter from Clementine Churchill (front)
    That Naughty Waltz
    That Naughty Waltz
    This was Edith's party piece and as well as accompanying William Edward Turner she would play this as a solo.
    May and Fred with Edie at East Malling
    May and Fred with "Edie" at East Malling
    113 Stanhope Grove about 1930
    113 Stanhope Grove about 1930
    The front of 113 Stanhope Grove showing the new garden constructed by William Edward Turner
    Edith Tidy
    Edith Tidy
    Edith Tidy as a very young woman(teenager)
    Wendy and Cuckoo
    Wendy and Cuckoo
    The two dogs owned by the Turners when they lived in Heathfield. Wendy Lou was a crossbred Cocker Spaniel x Retriever and Cuckoo was a mongrel bought by Pat at an auction in Maidstone Market for 5/-.
    Alfred Tidy with Edith
    Alfred Tidy with Edith
    Alfred Tidy with Edith aged about three months. Alfred was grandfather to Rosalie and Pat Turner
    Alice Tidy nee Fletcher with baby Edith
    Alice Tidy nee Fletcher with baby Edith
    Alice Tidy with Edith in pram.
    Part of the shop on the corner of Church Walk and the High Street in East Malling Kent.
    Part of the shop on the corner of Church Walk and the High Street in East Malling Kent.
    A view of the shop once run by Eddie and Edie Turner. This is the view looking down Mill Street towards St James Church.The section of shop premises shown is now a Tandoori House but was then the grocery,greengrocery and confectionary section with the tearoom entrance in Church walk to the left hand side of the picture and the library,drapery proprietary medicines and toy section out of sight in the High Street.
    Wedding
    Wedding
    An informal picture of the wedding of William Turner and Edith Tidy. Left to right-Dorothy Abbott,Leslie Turner,William Turner,Edith Tidy,May Turner,Alfred Tidy.Page Boy unknown
    Autosomal Dominant
    Autosomal Dominant
    Chart showing how the Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome is inherited as an autosomal dominant in descendants of the Fletcher family.
     
    Documents
    Flying Bombs on Beckenham
    Flying Bombs on Beckenham
    Pat and Rosalie Turner were too young to appreciate the danger posed by flying bombs and on an occasion when Pat was on a bus to visit the Odeon cinema in Beckenham she was astounded to see her mother cycling wildly behind the bus after her. This was because a flying bomb was overhead and the engine had just cut out.

    Subsequently Pat and her…
     
    Recordings
    The WW2 Air Raid Warning
    The WW2 Air Raid Warning
    This was the signal to take cover in the Air raid shelter William Edward had built at the bottom of the garden. He was pouring concrete for the roof on the morning war was declared. Immediately after the broadcast the first air raid warning was sounded. Luckily it was a false alarm because a hit on the shelter at that time would have entombed the family in wet concrete.
    Bombed Out
    Bombed Out
    The Turners lived in Beckenham during the second world war and their road was quite severely damaged. The only direct hit on the house was an incendiary bomb which Eddie was able to deal with by stirrup pump. However their terrace of five houses took three hits overall with a high explosive in the entry way to the recreation ground next to 110 and a another high explosive which failed to go off next door at 114. This is a lady describing her experience of being bombed .
    Alvar Liddell reads the midnight BBC news
    Alvar Liddell reads the midnight BBC news
    The adults of the family invariably listened to the BBC midnight news. The BBC news was always followed by "The National Anthem" and as the house was terraced and the "wireless" was against a neighbours wall there was an occasion when the neighbours arrived at the door to celebrate. Having heard the National Anthem through the wall they thought that the war was over.
    The Auxillery Fire Service
    The Auxillery Fire Service
    There was a station for the wartime Auxillery Fire Service (AFS) just up the road from the house in Beckenham.
    Reporting the blitz
    Reporting the blitz
    Luckily Beckenham was a few miles away from the scene described but Pat Turner remembers watching the terrible fires as they lit up the whole skyline.
    The family watched from the window from where they had watched the Crystal Palace fire some years before.Then they realised that they had better go down to the shelter.
    Heure Exquise The Merry Widow Waltz
    Heure Exquise The Merry Widow Waltz
    This was the music that Edie made into a lullaby for her daughters-using her own lyrics.

    Mummy's baby,
    Mummy's baby,
    I love you.

    Mummy's baby,
    Mummy's baby,
    Love me too.

    Mummy's little darling,
    Mummy's little pet,
    You are the sweetest little girl,
    Iv'e ever met"
    That Naughty Waltz
    That Naughty Waltz
    Edie's piano party piece
    Sung by Richard Tauber
    Sung by Richard Tauber
    Richard Tauber was Edie's favourite singer
    The Charleston
    The Charleston
    A very popular dance in the 1920s and danced by Edith Tidy at the weekly dances held at the Chelsea Town Hall.
     
  • Sources 
    1. [S15] Family Sources.

    2. [S16] Alice's Cookery Book/Diary.

    3. [S15] Family Sources (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S10] Birth certificate (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S22] Death certificate for Alfred Tidy (Reliability: 3).

    6. [S16] Alice's Cookery Book/Diary (Reliability: 3).

    7. [S35] Alice Fletcher's Address Book(Family Sources) (Reliability: 3).

    8. [S36] British Phone Books 1880-1984 Release 1 (Reliability: 3).
      Tidy & Roberts,Expert Florists,849 Fulham Rd,London SW6 Putney 1953

    9. [S36] British Phone Books 1880-1984 Release 1 (Reliability: 3).
      Tidy,Alfred.FRHS. Florist and Fruiterer.42 Lower Richmond Road,SW15 Putney 1953

    10. [S9] marriage certificate (Reliability: 3).

    11. [S21] Birth Certificate of Patricia Turner (Reliability: 3).

    12. [S8] death certificate (Reliability: 3).

  

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